<sgp_> 0. Introduction
<sgp_> We would like to welcome everyone to this Monero Community Workgroup Meeting!
<sgp_> Link to agenda on GitHub: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/471
<sgp_> Monero Community meetings are a discussion place for anything going on in the Monero Community, including other Monero workgroups. We use meetings to encourage the community to share ideas and provide support.
<sgp_> 1. Greetings
<ErCiccione> Hi folks
<sgp_> ping needbrrrrrrr90 sarang
<sgp_> hello everyone :)
<sgp_> 2. Community highlights
<sgp_> See Monero weekly highlights at https://revuo-monero.com
<sgp_> Check out resources at https://communityworkgroup.org. It also has a calendar you can subscribe to for meeting reminders.
<sgp_> We now have a Twitter! https://twitter.com/xmrcommunity
<sgp_> If we have time during open ideas time, please comment on what you want to use it for.
<sgp_> Diego spoke about Monero at the Messari’s Mainnet 2020 conference. Hopefully they eventually distribute a recording.
<sgp_> Does anyone have community (non-workgroup) updates to share?
<sgp_> 3. CCS updates
<sgp_> Funding required:
<sgp_> Norwegian translation of webplate, footers, nav. Menu (1.16 / 6 XMR) https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/Norwegian_translation_core.html
<sgp_> Research post-quantum strategies for Monero (550.06 / 576 XMR) https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/research-post-quantum-monero.html
<sgp_> Ideas (to be discussed):
<sgp_> Swedish cli wallet (3 XMR) https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/147
<sgp_> dEBRUYNE and ErCiccione[m] commented on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/gtjd6g/ccs_proposal_lets_add_support_for_swedish_in_to/
<monerobux> [REDDIT] [CCS Proposal] Lets add support for swedish in to monero cli wallet (self.Monero) | 21 points (82.0%) | 5 comments | Posted by writesofrust | Created at 2020-05-30 - 18:43:13
<sgp_> no comments on this one?
<binaryFate> I don't see much value either, but don't see a reason not to pass it on to funding required
<binaryFate> donors can decide
<binaryFate> 3 XMR is very small, maybe it is a good test run of the CCS system by that person if nothing else
<sgp_> is the gui and website already translated?
<ErCiccione> Not a big fan of that proposal. We don't even know about past experiences as translator and the proposal itself seems quite lazily written
<ErCiccione> let me check that
<sgp_> if they have no past contributions, I think that's a reason to not advance
<ErCiccione> We don't have the website in swedish. We have the GUI, which is almost fully translated
<ErCiccione> i'm fine with people not having past experience with monero if they show some credentials
<sgp_> did they show any?
<ErCiccione> To my knowledge, no.
<ErCiccione> but we didn't ask either
<sgp_> I guess the proposal is on hold then until that is resolved
<sgp_> final comments on this one?
<sgp_> second one:
<sgp_> Sarang: research funding for 2020 Q3 (492 XMR) https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/148
<sarang> I'll revisit the amount prior to opening (if this is decided)
<sgp_> I highly doubt anyone will comment against this one
<binaryFate> go go go!!!
<sarang> Happy to take questions here or as CCS comments
<ErCiccione> I already left a thumb up on the MR
<sgp_> 7 thumbs up now
<sgp_> I think we can proceed since this obviously has universal support
<sarang> I'll check on the amount first
<sgp_> of course
<sarang> So please don't merge just yet
<binaryFate> sarang did you discuss with luigi1111 about the proposed "stable USD amount" buffer?
<sarang> It was briefly mentioned, but not really in any more detail
<binaryFate> Let's discuss and finalize decision before you adapt amount
<binaryFate> (decision might be not to use it, no pressure!)
<sgp_> CLSAG Audit with Teserakt and OSTIF (179 XMR) https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/150
<sgp_> Teserakt has already done half of the audit on their own decision
<monerobux> Test failed
<sgp_> no comments?
<niocbrrrrrr> !donate [undisclosed_amount]
<niocbrrrrrr> please and thank you
<sgp_> haha nice
<sgp_> Any other CCS comments before we move on?
<sgp_> 4. Workgroup report
<sgp_> is selsta here?
<sgp_> a. Daemon/CLI/GUI workgroup
<sgp_> go ahead :)
<selsta> Will have to think :P
<selsta> v0.16 was a smooth release and with no major problems.
<selsta> I think we can soon prepare v0.17 with CLSAG
<sgp_> selsta: do you have an ideal release date for 0.17? since it will require a hardfork
<ErCiccione> Good job btw. People are super happy with the new GUI and CLI
<selsta> Not yet.
<selsta> I want to release at least 1 month before the hardfork time.
<kinghat[m]> ya the gui is sexy af
<sgp_> do you want it to happen before this fall?
<selsta> I would guess hardfork 2 months after the audit is done but that might be too optimistic.
<sarang> There will need to be Trezor/Ledger support in place from those teams
<sarang> and they'll probably want a testnet to try it out on
<selsta> We have to give exchanges and other wallets enough time to update.
<dEBRUYNE> Bear in mind that CLSAG also requires changes from wallet providers
<dEBRUYNE> Thus, we have to allow for more time arguably
<selsta> We are also thinking about signing the windows and macOS release but that might be a better topic for the dev meeting
<selsta> code certificate signing*
<ErCiccione> yeah. The problem with the antiviruses needs to be at list mitigated somehow. Really bad UX
<selsta> might no not possible to mitigate, but we will see
<kinghat[m]> did one of those hw wallets monero integration get promoted to "full" or "proper" vs just being a side thing?
<selsta> you mean ledger?
<kinghat[m]> im not sure